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president obama and speaker boehner. they had a weekend rendezvous at the white house. taxes, spending cuts. >>> i'm susan in for s.e. today. michigan's governor driving the motor city in to a fight over the unions. why's the president playing backseat driver? >>> i'm steve kornacki. there's outrage maybe even criminal charges coming in that death of the nurse in england. wait a minute. are we being too hard on the pranksters? >> i'm krystal ball. in to the holiday spiritual. our friend is back at the table with tips to dare we say it enjoy the season? >>> all and that a federal case of it. why when it comes to gay marriage the train can't be stop. neither can we. it's "the cycle" and it's monday, december 10th. >>> it's monday, fun day here at "the cycle." let's get the party started. where will it land today? fiscal cliff? huh. so much for fun. well you know what? we at "the cycle" can make it fun. look at this. the president living it up in motown last hour calling on republicans to stop being party poopers. >> i believe america only succeeds and thrives when we've g
president obama and speaker boehner. they had a weekend rendezvous at the white house. taxes, spending cuts. >>> i'm susan in for s.e. today. michigan's governor driving the motor city in to a fight over the unions. why's the president playing backseat driver? >>> i'm steve kornacki. there's outrage maybe even criminal charges coming in that death of the nurse in england. wait a minute. are we being too hard on the pranksters? >> i'm krystal ball. in to the holiday...
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here's candidate obama back in 2007. >> understand this. if american workers are being denied their right to organize and collectively bargain when i'm in the white house i'll put on a comfortable pair of shoes myself. i'll walk on that picket line with you as president of the united states. >> why did the president pick now to so voluntary valley insert himself in this issue? let's put it splu the spthrough cycle. i think it's about politics. like wisconsin, which he completely ignored. again, for political reasons. so, the way i sigh it is right now he's focusing on the fiscal cliff. he will have to give in on entitlement issues and up to him to focus on how to make the left happy and do something with labor. a natural constituency. it will come after him if he doesn't do something about it. i think right now good politics on the issue. >> yeah, no. i tend to agree with that. he just has to show up. he wasn't as in the speech today as sort as explicit as i was led to believe this morning and the white house made it clear where he stands o
here's candidate obama back in 2007. >> understand this. if american workers are being denied their right to organize and collectively bargain when i'm in the white house i'll put on a comfortable pair of shoes myself. i'll walk on that picket line with you as president of the united states. >> why did the president pick now to so voluntary valley insert himself in this issue? let's put it splu the spthrough cycle. i think it's about politics. like wisconsin, which he completely...
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president obama and house speaker john boehner met at the white house for another round of talks to avert the fiscal cliff. both sides say they're keeping the lines of communications open but no word of a break through. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner were behind closed doors trying to break the stalemate that threatens to take the country over the fiscal cliff in just over three weeks. one by one republicans are bowing to the president's demand that taxes go up for the wealthy. >> will i accept a tax increase as a part of a deal to actually solve our problems? yes. we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before you're in. i mean, we have one house that's it. the presidency and the senate in the democrat's hand. >> since we agree with the democrats 98% of the people and 08% of the bush tax cuts i would get that off the table now. >> democrats insist taxes are going up on the rich no matter what. >> if you don't increase tax rates on the highest 2% of income owners you cannot generate enough revenue to have meaningful deficit reduction. >> republicans
president obama and house speaker john boehner met at the white house for another round of talks to avert the fiscal cliff. both sides say they're keeping the lines of communications open but no word of a break through. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner were behind closed doors trying to break the stalemate that threatens to take the country over the fiscal cliff in just over three weeks. one by one republicans are bowing to the president's demand that taxes go up for the...
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well, president obama and speaker boehner met one on one at the white house last night. it was the first time in almost a month. neither side is talking about what happened. but today president obama continues his public campaign to pressure republicans to give on taxes. later this afternoon, he'll head to michigan to talk to auto workers outside a plant in detroit. >>> if you listen to the sunday shows, seems like some republicans are willing to give in on taxes to get where they want to go. entitlements. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house. that's it. the presidency and the senate is in the democrats' hands. a lot of people are putting forth a theory. i actually think it has merit. where you go ahead and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about. the rate increase on the top 2%. and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. >> let me bring in "washington post" columnist danny milbank and "usa tod
well, president obama and speaker boehner met one on one at the white house last night. it was the first time in almost a month. neither side is talking about what happened. but today president obama continues his public campaign to pressure republicans to give on taxes. later this afternoon, he'll head to michigan to talk to auto workers outside a plant in detroit. >>> if you listen to the sunday shows, seems like some republicans are willing to give in on taxes to get where they want...
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obama and stop making premature concessions for the tv cameras that only make the white house less likely to meet them halfway. is that the net result, dana? >> well, it is a crisis. it's a manmade crisis. it's not like some meteor is headed towards the earth. they set it up this way so there will be these massive tax increases and massive spending cuts, so they do need to -- they have made it to they need to act. the question is do you need an even larger crisis? do you need the economy to be in free fall to get these guys to take some action? unfortunately given the past record, that can't be ruled out. >> yeah. when it comes to cuts, especially on medicare, that whole conversation has to be had. here's what dick durbin said on "meet the press." >> i do believe there should be means testing. those of us with higher income and retirement should pay more. that could be part of the solution. but when you talk about raising the medicare eligibility age there's one key question. what happens to that early retiree. ? what about that gap in coverage between their workplace and medicare? >> jac
obama and stop making premature concessions for the tv cameras that only make the white house less likely to meet them halfway. is that the net result, dana? >> well, it is a crisis. it's a manmade crisis. it's not like some meteor is headed towards the earth. they set it up this way so there will be these massive tax increases and massive spending cuts, so they do need to -- they have made it to they need to act. the question is do you need an even larger crisis? do you need the economy...
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first, house speaker john boehner sent a counteroffer to president obama to fend off the fiscal cliff. in a response to an offer made by the white house yesterday, we go to rich edson from washington, d.c. with the latest. rich, any response from the white house on this? >> still working on that. aids say in exchhnge of proposals taken place, some movement, but still major differences between the white house and speaker's office. fox news reports the speaker and president just spoke on the phone. white house folks say there's a sign of movement. a senior house aide says the white house reduced the demand for tax revenue increases from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion, well short of the latest republican offer of $800 billion, though, there is another offer on the table from republicans that the details are unknown. boehner spokesman says we acceptability the white house a counteroffer to achieve reform to solve the crisis. we're still waiting for the white house to identify which spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach. fox news is reporting senio
first, house speaker john boehner sent a counteroffer to president obama to fend off the fiscal cliff. in a response to an offer made by the white house yesterday, we go to rich edson from washington, d.c. with the latest. rich, any response from the white house on this? >> still working on that. aids say in exchhnge of proposals taken place, some movement, but still major differences between the white house and speaker's office. fox news reports the speaker and president just spoke on...
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if republicans are serious about pulling a repeat of 2011, obama can't ignore them. since it will wreck immediate havoc on the economy. white house wants at the very least a long-term extension of the debt ceiling in any fiscal cliff deal. the republicans now see the debt ceiling as their own leverage. they're demanding a steep price to include it. who anyways if obama will ultimately go along with something like this. but it is a talk that there is still one crucial way he's at the mercy of republicans. it leaves him with a tough choice. to pay their price in entitlements or play debt ceiling chicken with them again. okay. does it for "the cycle" today.
if republicans are serious about pulling a repeat of 2011, obama can't ignore them. since it will wreck immediate havoc on the economy. white house wants at the very least a long-term extension of the debt ceiling in any fiscal cliff deal. the republicans now see the debt ceiling as their own leverage. they're demanding a steep price to include it. who anyways if obama will ultimately go along with something like this. but it is a talk that there is still one crucial way he's at the mercy of...
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house speaker to talk to president obama. first individual one on one meeting since the election and that meeting and some other signals that have been sent publicly by both parties have caused some noted skeptics of us getting a fiscal cliff deal. >> i think the atmospherics are getting so much better. we've gotten out after ka bookie theater and gone to dancing the tango with those two guys. any time you start to tango, you have a chance. >> chances of getting it done now are better. i think that's what's key. >> part of that tango is republicans cracking on tax rates. that's what president obama will be talking about in michigan today. keeping the public pressure on. but the part for the administrator point of view, tyler, is what do they live john boehner so he can bring his troops along, entitlement, spending cuts, to tell their members we got a good deal. >> john, i find it curious to find that president spent as much time as he has on the road trying to drum up support for this deal. we just had an election all about t
house speaker to talk to president obama. first individual one on one meeting since the election and that meeting and some other signals that have been sent publicly by both parties have caused some noted skeptics of us getting a fiscal cliff deal. >> i think the atmospherics are getting so much better. we've gotten out after ka bookie theater and gone to dancing the tango with those two guys. any time you start to tango, you have a chance. >> chances of getting it done now are...
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that makes it harder. >> tell us something about the obama white house that we do not know. >> what does obama think of mitt romney? what does he really think? i think he feels that romney is incompetence because he did not run a better campaign. i suspect that one of the teams in all of the coverage of the campaign is going to be that romney never found a way to -- either the method or the theme of how to run against obama were as they thought it was going to be easy. >> we are about to get the hook here -- the penultimate question. what is the one thing you would like to know about president obama that you do not? >> i did ask him this. i did not put it in the book. he keeps a diary. i would like to have access. [laughter] he said, i said, do you keep a diary? he said, yes, but not on all of these details. i said the outcome on -- i said, come on. let's see it. i am sure he will write a really interesting them more. >> what did he tell you about the diary? >> that it existed. no detail. he did not offer me to read from it or anything like that. you know, is it dictated? is it written?
that makes it harder. >> tell us something about the obama white house that we do not know. >> what does obama think of mitt romney? what does he really think? i think he feels that romney is incompetence because he did not run a better campaign. i suspect that one of the teams in all of the coverage of the campaign is going to be that romney never found a way to -- either the method or the theme of how to run against obama were as they thought it was going to be easy. >> we...
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speaker boehner accuses the white house of dragging its feet. >> president obama offered a proposal, republicans didn't like that plan. now the g.o.p. has countered. so the ball is in the white house's court and that's what republicans are basically waiting for. but i don't see -- i don't think you'll see real progress over the next week. we are about two weeks away from christmas. three weeks until we hit the deadline and they're nowhere. what speaker boehner said correct. there's been no progress and there will be nor jockeying and leverage the next week. >> i want to point out in the president's weekly address that was issued yesterday, he says there's wiggle room by democrats to come up with a solution. >> that's true. that's what president obama -- he's been saying to republicans here and there, i'm willing to put more on the table but pour the moment, democrats are saying don't touch social security, don't cut medicare. this will come down to whoever blinks first on tax rates. republicans are going to bend on tax rates. maybe not $250,000 threshold, maybe closer to a million. b
speaker boehner accuses the white house of dragging its feet. >> president obama offered a proposal, republicans didn't like that plan. now the g.o.p. has countered. so the ball is in the white house's court and that's what republicans are basically waiting for. but i don't see -- i don't think you'll see real progress over the next week. we are about two weeks away from christmas. three weeks until we hit the deadline and they're nowhere. what speaker boehner said correct. there's been...
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is it a pro-obama group or republican? it is really its own group. host: who are some of the names people might recognize, the ceo's of which companies? guest: the efforts the white house has made this year is much larger and much more effective than it was last year. they are bringing in more people with business ford but with a lot of other organizations as well. the president spoke with financial services leaders and has brought in two groups of big-name ceos. -- the president has spoken with business forward. of out of 10 per ceo's small companies. -- tend to be ceo's of small companies. smaller investors, smaller business owners. host: what are the members concerns with the fiscal cliff stocks? guest: for most small-business owners and senior executives at big companies, the fear is that going over the cliff, even on a technical term, will increase their borrowing costs and will put our economic recovery at risk. most business leaders point to simpson-bowles. they understand that we have to raise revenue and we also have to control spending. the
is it a pro-obama group or republican? it is really its own group. host: who are some of the names people might recognize, the ceo's of which companies? guest: the efforts the white house has made this year is much larger and much more effective than it was last year. they are bringing in more people with business ford but with a lot of other organizations as well. the president spoke with financial services leaders and has brought in two groups of big-name ceos. -- the president has spoken...
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well, president obama and speaker boehner met one on one at the white house last night. it was the first time in almost a month. neither side is talking about what happened. but today president obama continues his public campaign to pressure republicans to give on
well, president obama and speaker boehner met one on one at the white house last night. it was the first time in almost a month. neither side is talking about what happened. but today president obama continues his public campaign to pressure republicans to give on
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president obama and speaker boehner sit down at the white house and try to make some headway on a deal. they're quiet about what happened but the president will loudly make it clear what he wants again today and he's on the road in michigan. also this morning one half of america's favorite fiscal friendship will be here. erskine bowles on debt deal making, whether he wants to work for the obama administration and his pal simpson's newfound love for deficit hawk gangnam style. plus, what will had hillary clinton do next. the secretary of state's future. some of clinton's closest allies are keeping very quiet which actually was surprising. good morning. from washington it's monday, december 10, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. we're in double digits in december. what does that mean? it means we're finally at the serious phase of the fiscal negotiations. three weeks to go before the proverbial fiscal cliff. actually it's not proverbial. so-called, right? let's not hope this becomes proverbial. anyway, the president's photo-op of the day will be at a suburban detroit auto
president obama and speaker boehner sit down at the white house and try to make some headway on a deal. they're quiet about what happened but the president will loudly make it clear what he wants again today and he's on the road in michigan. also this morning one half of america's favorite fiscal friendship will be here. erskine bowles on debt deal making, whether he wants to work for the obama administration and his pal simpson's newfound love for deficit hawk gangnam style. plus, what will...
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. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner meeting at the white house today for another round of talks to avert the possible cliff. both sides a there keeping the lines of communication open, but no word yet on a breakthrough. brian mooar has the latest from washington. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner were behind closed doors today trying to break the tax and spending stalemate recommended take the country over the fiscal cliff in three weeks. they want to about to the president's demand that taxes go up for the wealthy. >> will i accept a tax increase to actually solve our problems? yes. >> we have one house and that's it. this is in the democrats' hands. >> we agree on 98% of this, to me, i would just get it off the table also they don't worry about it. >> they agreed that visits are going up on the rich no matter what. >> you cannot generate enough revenue to have meaningful deficit reduction. >> republicans want a big spending cuts from programs like medicare and social security. >> we do not want to be here in another year or attend. >> on both sides of
. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner meeting at the white house today for another round of talks to avert the possible cliff. both sides a there keeping the lines of communication open, but no word yet on a breakthrough. brian mooar has the latest from washington. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner were behind closed doors today trying to break the tax and spending stalemate recommended take the country over the fiscal cliff in three weeks. they want to...
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. >>> over at the white house president obama has no public events scheduled. meanwhile, over in michigan thousands of union members and supporters are protesting at the state capitol building in lancing. the state, which is the heart of the united autoworkers and ground zero for union rights is poised to sign a major anti-labor bill into law today. the president weighed in on that, speaking yesterday in redford. >> these right to work clause, they don't have anything with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. america is not going to compete based on low skill, low wage, no workers rights. that's not our competitive advantage. there's always going to be some other country that can treat its workers even worse. >> the house speaker, john boehner, is speaking now on the house floor regarding the fiscal cliff. let's take a listen. >> beyond 1:50 p.m. today. >> the speaker of the house for five minutes. >> the speaker, last week republicans made a serious offer to avert
. >>> over at the white house president obama has no public events scheduled. meanwhile, over in michigan thousands of union members and supporters are protesting at the state capitol building in lancing. the state, which is the heart of the united autoworkers and ground zero for union rights is poised to sign a major anti-labor bill into law today. the president weighed in on that, speaking yesterday in redford. >> these right to work clause, they don't have anything with...
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. >>> 11 other republican governors want to meet with president obama over the health care law. they want to talk about how to set up health exchanges on expanding the medicaid rolls. they've sent a letter to the white house asking for time with the president. >>> and senator scott brown said good-bye to his colleagues in the senate, but he hinted you have not seen the last of him when he said defeat is only temporary. >>> speaking of good-byes, senator joe lieberman made his farewell speech to his colleagues yesterday. and reflected how much has changed when he took office. he said when he started in the senate, a blackberry was a fruit and tweeting was am for the birds. and the senator had fun talking about his vice presidential run. >> thanks to vice president gore, i was given the opportunity to be the first jewish american nominated for a major political party for national office. and incidentally, thanks to the american people, grateful to have received 500,000 more votes than my opponent on the other side. but that's a longer story. i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash ba
. >>> 11 other republican governors want to meet with president obama over the health care law. they want to talk about how to set up health exchanges on expanding the medicaid rolls. they've sent a letter to the white house asking for time with the president. >>> and senator scott brown said good-bye to his colleagues in the senate, but he hinted you have not seen the last of him when he said defeat is only temporary. >>> speaking of good-byes, senator joe lieberman...
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. >> reporter: president obama headed to detroit this morning to seek support from auto workers for his plan to raise taxes on the wealthiest americans. the president's latest campaign style appearance follows a weekend white house meeting with house speaker john boehner. sources tell cbs news both sides remain hopeful but little progress was made. if they can't reach an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff, taxes for all americans will go up and across the board spending cuts will kick in on january 1. economists say that combination could plunge the country back into a recession. there are signs some republicans are now willing to compromise on taxes if they can secure cuts to social security, medicare and medicaid. >> the rate increase on the top 2% that the president is talking about and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. >> reporter: one proposal under discussion, raising the eligibility age for medicare is not going well for some democrats and advocates for senior citizens. >> the option to raise the medicare age is bad policy and will increase costs because peopl
. >> reporter: president obama headed to detroit this morning to seek support from auto workers for his plan to raise taxes on the wealthiest americans. the president's latest campaign style appearance follows a weekend white house meeting with house speaker john boehner. sources tell cbs news both sides remain hopeful but little progress was made. if they can't reach an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff, taxes for all americans will go up and across the board spending cuts will kick in...
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>> obama overplayed his hand. he thinks somebody made him king. >> right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. it's not me being stubborn or patterson. it's just a matter of math. >> there have been no deals of this magnitude made in modern times in congress and forced on a reluctant president. >> the president continues to change the goal posts along this process. >> we're looking for solutions and it doesn't seem, at least from the president's proposal, that he is at all serious about finding the solutions to help our country. >> he thinks somebody's made him king. >> if the president really wants to reach an agreement, he needs to talk to the members of his own party right here in washington trying to broker an agreement, not out there firing up crowds and giving speeches. >> its time for the president and the democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. >> we loo
>> obama overplayed his hand. he thinks somebody made him king. >> right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. it's not me being stubborn or patterson. it's just a matter of math. >> there have been no deals of this magnitude made in modern times in congress and forced on a reluctant president. >> the president continues to change the goal posts...
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stuart: president obama invited several msnbc hosts to visit the white house yesterday. they were all briefed on his tax plan and how to push his agenda. huffington founder of the huffington post and well known leftist also got to join in on the fun. charles, they didn't invite us. charles: they did not invite us and it gets back to the very first thing we talked about, the media doing the heavy lifting for the president, not just getting him elected but now enforcing his policies, making sure that people pay. if you don't absorb his social and economic policies, there will be a campaign against you, personally, and against any economic interest that you have. they got their marching orders and they are going to go out there with it. stuart: cozy chat with the president. here's how i want you to sell my tax the rich policy. all right, problems with the boeing dreamliner, the faa now requiring new inspections, citing manufacturing flaws at boeing's plants, causing possible fuel leaks. no real reaction to boeing stock. it's down 76 cents, 1%, that's it. but this does give
stuart: president obama invited several msnbc hosts to visit the white house yesterday. they were all briefed on his tax plan and how to push his agenda. huffington founder of the huffington post and well known leftist also got to join in on the fun. charles, they didn't invite us. charles: they did not invite us and it gets back to the very first thing we talked about, the media doing the heavy lifting for the president, not just getting him elected but now enforcing his policies, making sure...
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the white house. when president obama was in tough straights he went back and did something. i've been fighting this battle for a long time as attorney general, the governor, now for what i believe in. it's time for president obama to stand up to the bullies of the n.r.a. and gun advocates. no more excuses about protecting votes. now is the time to take a tough stand on oh the issues we believe in. marshall your forces, mr. president and bring real change. gun control is necessary and delay means more death and horror. for more on how to make mentionful change on the issue i'm joined by a colorado shooting survivor and now and outreach assistant with the mayor. thank you both for joining us. this issue comes back repeatedly and unfortunately fades into oblivion just as quickly. can you sense in your day to day advocacy, day to day since this horrific day over the weekend what has changed? >> i really believe the momentum is in my favor. people are as fed up as bob costas is with the state of affairs, currently. people want change, and they want to see the president lead when
the white house. when president obama was in tough straights he went back and did something. i've been fighting this battle for a long time as attorney general, the governor, now for what i believe in. it's time for president obama to stand up to the bullies of the n.r.a. and gun advocates. no more excuses about protecting votes. now is the time to take a tough stand on oh the issues we believe in. marshall your forces, mr. president and bring real change. gun control is necessary and delay...
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. ♪ host: president obama and john boehner met yesterday afternoon at the white house to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. their first meeting in 23 days. both sides are not saying what if any progress were made. washington has 22 days left to me -- make a deal. "the post" had lined, "a deal is a vital." what are you willing to sacrifice to avert the so-called this clip? for republicans, 202-585-3881. for democrats, 202-585-3880. for independents, 202-585-3882. remember, also, send us it twitter message, the analysis is that americans need to embrace sacrifice again. he says that any outcome of this is going to require sacrifice and pain from the american public. in the peace he writes that the problem is not washington, that it is us. no longer are we willing to pay for the things that we know that we need. boaters that demand something for nothing will demand otherwise. politicians who fear for their jobs will comply. we want to turn to all of you and ask you, what are you willing to sacrifice? are you willing to change medicare and social security as republicans say is needed? are you wil
. ♪ host: president obama and john boehner met yesterday afternoon at the white house to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. their first meeting in 23 days. both sides are not saying what if any progress were made. washington has 22 days left to me -- make a deal. "the post" had lined, "a deal is a vital." what are you willing to sacrifice to avert the so-called this clip? for republicans, 202-585-3881. for democrats, 202-585-3880. for independents, 202-585-3882. remember,...
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it's apparently a response to an offer the white house made yesterday. that was one day after the president and the speaker met one on one at the white house. of course three weeks from today automatic tax hikes and spending cuts kick in if they can't come to deal. jim angle is following late developments from our washington newsroom. there have been a lot of them in just the last 30 minutes. >> i will say, shep. the clock, of course, as you indicated is clicking louder. not clear if we had real progress or just movement. president and speaker boehner did talk by phone tonight after white house offer monday and counter offer from boehner about which his office said quote we sent the white house a counter offer that would achieve tax and entitlement reform to solve our loom being debt crisis and create more miner jobs. the statement also reit raided, however, what speaker boehner and others said earlier today. listen. >> we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spends cuts the president is wig to makes a part of the balanced approach. wher
it's apparently a response to an offer the white house made yesterday. that was one day after the president and the speaker met one on one at the white house. of course three weeks from today automatic tax hikes and spending cuts kick in if they can't come to deal. jim angle is following late developments from our washington newsroom. there have been a lot of them in just the last 30 minutes. >> i will say, shep. the clock, of course, as you indicated is clicking louder. not clear if we...
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house is decorated and from the looks of it the obamas will have a fun holiday. >> the white house is ready for christmas. today first lady michelle obama has given a tour and that is not it. >> there's been a lot of soul searching going on at fox news. and i am confident that they eventually will find one. >> i think they park better than i do. >> psy said some anti-american things. ♪ >> no big deal. we don't believe psy. >> controversy erupts after president obama embraces a rapper once calling for the death of innocent americans. >> he was caught on camera shaking his hand. he's not going to stand up for our brave men and women in the military? that's pretty sad. >> we have specifics coming out of our eyeballs. i'm very confident we can take the smat. we're doing to win this race because people know we need a better future for this country and i don't think people are hoping for four more years of this mess. >> let's get to our panel. jonathan capehart is an msnbc contributor and karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and the former director of communications at the dnc. kare
house is decorated and from the looks of it the obamas will have a fun holiday. >> the white house is ready for christmas. today first lady michelle obama has given a tour and that is not it. >> there's been a lot of soul searching going on at fox news. and i am confident that they eventually will find one. >> i think they park better than i do. >> psy said some anti-american things. ♪ >> no big deal. we don't believe psy. >> controversy erupts after...
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it didn't come from the white house, it didn't come from democrats, it came from senator jim demint. the tea party hero who famously made this vow with the president's health care law. >> if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. >> guess what, it wasn't the president's waterlook but today he announced that he's leaving the senate to run a conservative think tank. and just like that, gone is is a man who represented all of the obstruction, the man who defined gridlock and was the face of ugliness in the tea party movement. the night of the president's inauguration, he met with other republicans to plot against the president. he threatened to single handedly shut down the senate in 2010 and stood strong with congressman todd akin after his legitimate rape comments. today's announcement is another line in the tea party obit. it's another nail in the tea party coffin. a movement that vowed to change washington. >> the tea party movement is alive and well. >> it's going to continue to redefine the political landscape in 2012. >> this november we're
it didn't come from the white house, it didn't come from democrats, it came from senator jim demint. the tea party hero who famously made this vow with the president's health care law. >> if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. >> guess what, it wasn't the president's waterlook but today he announced that he's leaving the senate to run a conservative think tank. and just like that, gone is is a man who represented all of the obstruction, the...
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president obama and speaker john boehner are talking, signs of progress or more of the same? it worked in the white house, we're pleased to be joined by some economic writer for the "wall street journal." let's start with these comments from a republican from tennessee known to be reasonable suggesting increase the tax rates on the wealthiest 2% to move on and talk about entitlements getting a little it is realistic to see the deal that might alternately happen? >> hi, lori and melissa. do you think you wil you'll havw december 31? i think this thing will stretch out maybe a few hours before plunging off a cliff. lori: anybody who thinks it will be an easy newsday is mistaken. >> you and i talked about it a week or two ago the thing that is amazing is they are not getting closer, they're getting further apart. melissa: at me sitting there for their part? >> i think he is emboldened by the election returns obviously and emboldened by the polls showing public and higher tax rates on the rich that he has become much less willing to compromise and republican sources. the thing th
president obama and speaker john boehner are talking, signs of progress or more of the same? it worked in the white house, we're pleased to be joined by some economic writer for the "wall street journal." let's start with these comments from a republican from tennessee known to be reasonable suggesting increase the tax rates on the wealthiest 2% to move on and talk about entitlements getting a little it is realistic to see the deal that might alternately happen? >> hi, lori and...
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. >> several governors met with president obama tuesday to discuss the soda ash called fiscal cliff and its impact on states and the economy. -- the so-called fiscal clef. members of the national governors' association spoke to reporters but the white house for about 15 minutes. >> good morning, everybody. i am the chair of the national governors' association, the governor of the telephone, -- of delaware, joined by the governor of oklahoma, the vice chair. and we are also joined by the governors of wisconsin and arkansas. we are three democrats and three republicans. we just had what i would say it was a very good meeting with the president. the issues we face as governors and states are considered as part of the discussions going on in washington. the president was very open. we talked about some of the issues we focus on as governors, one of those same opportunities for flexibility, in terms of some of the programs we partner with the federal government. he was open to that as well. and there is an impact not just from the fiscal issues, but the issues in terms of how the discussions
. >> several governors met with president obama tuesday to discuss the soda ash called fiscal cliff and its impact on states and the economy. -- the so-called fiscal clef. members of the national governors' association spoke to reporters but the white house for about 15 minutes. >> good morning, everybody. i am the chair of the national governors' association, the governor of the telephone, -- of delaware, joined by the governor of oklahoma, the vice chair. and we are also joined by...
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the white house is asking federal agencies to plan for $100 billion in spending cuts and that is what happened if not resolved. administration believes the deal will be done. john boehner made an offer earlier this week putting $800 billion on new revenue on the table. he got hit hard by the administration and members of his own party. >> we have to cut spending and, i believe, it's super flowous. >> and that is a law, higher rates to go up for the 2072%, including all of you. yes. >> reporter: president obama was speaking to business leaders when he made the comment. he insists he will veto any bill not including tax increases on wealthier americans. >>> the defense department started planning for the roughly $500 billion in personnel cuts. the pin is not talking to the defense contractors of public plans. >>> the council made it clear that it's not following the mayor's lead on several issues. it was evident last night during a 13-hour meeting. the council voted against several bills. matt has more. >> reporter: the mayor appears to be concerned about the budget when it comes to a n
the white house is asking federal agencies to plan for $100 billion in spending cuts and that is what happened if not resolved. administration believes the deal will be done. john boehner made an offer earlier this week putting $800 billion on new revenue on the table. he got hit hard by the administration and members of his own party. >> we have to cut spending and, i believe, it's super flowous. >> and that is a law, higher rates to go up for the 2072%, including all of you. yes....
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martha: newt gingrich with a warning for president obama. he says that the white house is taking a big risk with its my way or the highway negotiations on the fiscal cliff. now you can look at it. >> this president has a chance, as he did in 09 to come in and say i'm going to sit down and work with you, we're going to be bipartisan. we are going to put the country first. i'm going to write or he can write a stimulus package and ram it through on red. he guarantees a permanent war, because everybody on the right at every level sooner or later is going to get particular sick of it. martha: is he right? let's talk to brit hume, fox news senior political analyst. good morning to you. is he right about that if the president doesn't do some negotiating, giving in a little bit on this that he's risks a permanent war on capitol hill. >> reporter: i think there will be a permanent war over the issues of taxation and spending regardless of what happens in this immediate negotiation to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff and the reason is this. for a long
martha: newt gingrich with a warning for president obama. he says that the white house is taking a big risk with its my way or the highway negotiations on the fiscal cliff. now you can look at it. >> this president has a chance, as he did in 09 to come in and say i'm going to sit down and work with you, we're going to be bipartisan. we are going to put the country first. i'm going to write or he can write a stimulus package and ram it through on red. he guarantees a permanent war, because...
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gerri: tracy: hello, i am tracy byrnes for a president obama is meeting at the white house right now. a meeting called by the white house. a little bit strange since earlier today. speaker boehner left the capital and the white house said the ball was in speaker boehner square. rich edson is on the white house with the latest. were they talking about? this on a day when president obama said i have cut $1 trillion already in spending. that was part of last summer's budget deal. but he says that i am willing to do a lot more cuts in spending. you have a willingness to do spending cuts, a willingness from john boehner to raise revenues. however, we have been stuck on the details of this thing for the past two weeks here. the past three weeks or longer. the white house is putting an offer on the table. they were far apart in spending cuts. our part in revenues and the way they do increase tax revenues. republicans say no to any tax rate increase. how speaker john boehner says they will do it by limiting deductions next year. what the white house wants is an immediate tax rate increase on
gerri: tracy: hello, i am tracy byrnes for a president obama is meeting at the white house right now. a meeting called by the white house. a little bit strange since earlier today. speaker boehner left the capital and the white house said the ball was in speaker boehner square. rich edson is on the white house with the latest. were they talking about? this on a day when president obama said i have cut $1 trillion already in spending. that was part of last summer's budget deal. but he says that...
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how are those behind the scenes talks going between president obama and the speaker? >> i want people to know that the president and i met on sunday. it was a nice meeting. it was cordal. we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach that he promised the american people. you know, where are the president's spending cuts? >> flash point, syria. has assad backed off his chemical weapons threat? >> we haven't seen anything new for aggressive steps to move forward in that way. >> and hair envy. what will harry reid miss most about retired senator ben nelson? >> he had a lot of real hair. it's often that people call his office -- they believe he has a toupe. it's his hair. he will pull it for every time just to show you that it's real. i mean, he has hair like a 15-year-old, mr. president, and so i have to acknowledge i am a little envious of his hair. ♪ i want it long, straight, curly, fuzzy ♪ >> you wonder why we don't have a budget deal yet. good day. i'm andrea mitchell live
how are those behind the scenes talks going between president obama and the speaker? >> i want people to know that the president and i met on sunday. it was a nice meeting. it was cordal. we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach that he promised the american people. you know, where are the president's spending cuts? >> flash point, syria. has assad backed off his chemical weapons threat?...
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you worked in the obama white house, does it shock you when lindsey graham stands up and votes against this. he's somewhat a respected member of the senate. >> nothing shocks me any more. the republican party has been moving away from disability for some time. when you look at other things that the congress has focused on medicaid, healthcare, the affordable care act, even looking at what's going on with the fiscal cliff right? are we going to balance our budget by lessoning lessening the support to those with disability or focus on those at the top 1%. this trend is ongoing and i hope it doesn't continue. the bipartisan tradition around disability is longstanding, and i think it's mourn. it's one of those few issues that traditionally both republicans and democrats can agree on, and i hope we can get back to that point. a lot of work need to be done in the republican party for us to get there. >> eliot: your point is so well taken. there should be no disagreement about extending rights to those with disabilities. this is not a partisan issue. it has not been historically a partisan is
you worked in the obama white house, does it shock you when lindsey graham stands up and votes against this. he's somewhat a respected member of the senate. >> nothing shocks me any more. the republican party has been moving away from disability for some time. when you look at other things that the congress has focused on medicaid, healthcare, the affordable care act, even looking at what's going on with the fiscal cliff right? are we going to balance our budget by lessoning lessening the...
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. >>> boehner ripped into president obama, speaker boehner calling the white house fiscal plan a joke. senator ron johnson is on the budget committee. he joins us. good evening, sir. >> greta, how you doing? >> greta: very well, and calling the plan a joke, i guess he is not going to beat around the bush for us. >> unfortunately, greta, president obama pretty well holds all the cards in this negotiation. if he wants to have tax increases or tax rates go up, i don't see how republicans can stop him, you know, because everybody's taxes are going to increase if congress does nothing, and president obama is the only person that can sign a bill into law and quite honestly, senator harry reid is the only person in the senate that can pass a bill in the senate as well. it sounds like people like howard dean want everybody's taxes to go up. maybe we should feel fortunate that president obama only wants the top two% to g two percent t. >> greta: do you anticipate republicans will vote for a rate increase if this should come to a vote? >> i don't believe they'll vote for a rate increase. what w
. >>> boehner ripped into president obama, speaker boehner calling the white house fiscal plan a joke. senator ron johnson is on the budget committee. he joins us. good evening, sir. >> greta, how you doing? >> greta: very well, and calling the plan a joke, i guess he is not going to beat around the bush for us. >> unfortunately, greta, president obama pretty well holds all the cards in this negotiation. if he wants to have tax increases or tax rates go up, i don't...
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the longer the white house slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> president obama responded, showing republicans where they could find the details. >> it's not a mystery. we've seen this before. this is the document that contains the specific spending cuts. the speaker of the house sent us a proposal that was two pages long that included one sentence on revenue. the proposal here includes, i believe from pages 17 to 45, details on proposed spending cuts by the president, pages 17 to 45. i recommend them to you. >> so, at this point, a deal before christmas looking unlikely. as senate majority leader harry reid admitted yesterday. but in an interview with barbara walters, president obama predicted that republicans would eventually give in on taxes. >> the most important thing we can do is make sure the middle class taxes do not go up on january 1st, and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high-income individuals. >> prediction. are you going to be able to raise taxes, yes o
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to the republican plan he rejected. >> we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: the president and boehner spoke on the phone wednesday but republicans want more. >> we want to sit down with the. we want to talk specifics. >> reporter: whether the talks happen on the phone or in person, here on capitol hill or at the white house, there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes, something that does not appear likely any time soon. >> an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. >> reporter: treasury secretary timothy geithner said the white house is absolutely willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the g.o.p. doesn't agree to raise taxes on the top 2% of earners. while a handful of republicans appears willing to concede that point, the party's position seems unchangeable. >> speaker boehner took a position i think the day aft campaign that said we're willing to bring in revenue but we're not willing to increase rates. >> reporter: the president says if republicans will concede the po
to the republican plan he rejected. >> we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: the president and boehner spoke on the phone wednesday but republicans want more. >> we want to sit down with the. we want to talk specifics. >> reporter: whether the talks happen on the phone or in person, here on capitol hill or at the white house, there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes, something that does not appear...
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>>> president barack obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. no details on their conversations but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> and just after midnight on sunday, making history. the governor signed the voter-approved referendum into law on wednesday. >>> and hugo chavez is returning to cuba for more cancer surgery but this time he is making sure a new leader is in place in case he doesn't return, and he named the vice president as his choice for a replacement in case something happens for him. the 58-year-old president is still scheduled to be sworn in for a new six-year-term on january 10th. >>> sad news for fans of music star jenni rivera. there doesn't appear to be any survivors. the plane lost contact with air traffic controllers early this morning. so far no cause has been given for that crash. >>> the national menorah in front of t
>>> president barack obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. no details on their conversations but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> and just after midnight on sunday, making history. the governor signed the voter-approved referendum...
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president obama and john boehner met face-to-face at the white house to try to prevent the fiscal cliff. now just 23 days away. >>> the wording here is identical, ending with this, the lines of communication remain open. the two men last spoke by phone on wednesday and on friday mr. boehner said the white house had wasted another week for potential compromise. we don't know what prompted this meeting just that for the first time in a while the two sides are agreeing on something even if it's just the wording of their statements and keeping tight-lipped about what was said. don? >> thank you very much. >>> in today's meetings between president obama and speaker boehner, is it a sign that we are close to a fiscal cliff deal? i asked the senior cnn analyst, david gergen. >> this week is a crucial week to see if they can get a break through. in fact, they are willing to sit down and they did it in private, and instead of the political theater we have seen in the last few weeks i think that's encouraging. there's even a bigger long-term issue, and that is whether the kind of agreement they c
president obama and john boehner met face-to-face at the white house to try to prevent the fiscal cliff. now just 23 days away. >>> the wording here is identical, ending with this, the lines of communication remain open. the two men last spoke by phone on wednesday and on friday mr. boehner said the white house had wasted another week for potential compromise. we don't know what prompted this meeting just that for the first time in a while the two sides are agreeing on something even...
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now the truth of the matter is obama administration said well, almost every small business in the country would fall below that. they are not rich people and it doesn't count. that universe of the small businesses that the white house is talking about includes the smallest internet vendor. the truth is that number of businesses that pay at the higher rate are all the ones of any size. that would do any hiring. this would really get at the republican objection. it would be interesting to see if the white house is trogg agree to that. >> bret: political curveball. >> thanks. >> bret: new rule for some taxpayer funded government workers about tweeting and what you and your neighbors really think about the federal employees. grapevine is next. >> bret: now some fresh pickings from the political "grey's anatomy." americans think public workers are better paid and more secure. and it turns out they're spot on. rasmussen report poll found that nearly two-third of private sector workers across the ideological spectrum believe that. and investors business daily notes since president obama took off
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the recognition comes as the white house confirms to nbc news that assad is more desperate and started using scud missiles. >> we're made a decision that the syrian opposition coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative enough of the syrian population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the syrian people. >> joining me now, deputy editor bobby gauch. does this provide help to the rebels? >> it is not yet clear. the united states did not say it will provide arms. it opens the door wider and the u.s. is coming late to this party. a number of other allies of the united states have given recognition and giving them arms and assistance. the u.s. is among the last reported stamp of approval. >> what are do you think the approval was meat at this point? part the united states has had concern fist are a long time that among the many groups, some have close ties to al qaeda and the obama administration didn't want to give the recognition to that particular group. in recent days, they have identified one group and put that down on the terror list and to
the recognition comes as the white house confirms to nbc news that assad is more desperate and started using scud missiles. >> we're made a decision that the syrian opposition coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative enough of the syrian population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the syrian people. >> joining me now, deputy editor bobby gauch. does this provide help to the rebels? >> it is not yet clear. the united states did...
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at the white house today. okay? at 3:30 eastern, not a lot of hours left and daylight here, but getting together according to a white house official. we'll see if the markets make a better comeback at the moment. well off lows, same with the s&p and nasdaq, a tough day for most of this. okay, 5 p.m., now we have the number, the time, 5 p.m., john boehner going to the white house for a meeting, according to wire reports. the airline industry has become infamous for losing money, but spirit airlines created a flight pattern to consistent profits. ben, spirit airlines ceo joining me now in a fox business exclusive going into the holiday travel season, and following the story now for a better part of a couple years, finding it absolutely fascinating, and airline able to do this embracing nickel and diming. tell me first how is the airline situation looking going into the christmas two weeks before? >> well, great to see you again, liz, and merry christmas, and, you know, christmas, the christmas hanukkah season is
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president obama got the third spot with his you didn't build that. >>> a petition on the white house website called for congress and the president to forfeit their pay and health care benefits until the fiscal cliff crisis is resolved. the petition has gotten more than 11,000 signatures but 25,000 are needed to get a white house response. >>> president obama will have a private swearing in from justice john roberts on sunday, january 20th. the next day will be the official ceremony and the president's inauguration has decided to start accepting corporate and private donations this time to help play for the parade, the balls, all those other events. >>> west virginia senator joe manson upset about a new reality tv show. he has written a letter to mtv demanding it be canceled. some are calling it the "jersey shore" of appalacia. >> y'all want to swim? >> for young, free and wild. >> that's wild. okay. that's going to do it for your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> the fedex kufl and the best and cheapest travel days of the years coming up. >>> plus, new details surrounding the d
president obama got the third spot with his you didn't build that. >>> a petition on the white house website called for congress and the president to forfeit their pay and health care benefits until the fiscal cliff crisis is resolved. the petition has gotten more than 11,000 signatures but 25,000 are needed to get a white house response. >>> president obama will have a private swearing in from justice john roberts on sunday, january 20th. the next day will be the official...